Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/22/1996 01:41 PM House FIN

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  HOUSE BILL NO. 319                                                           
                                                                               
       "An Act relating  to the regulation  of small loan  and                 
       retail installment transactions."                                       
                                                                               
  GEORGE DOSIER, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE PETE  KOTT testified in                 
  support of HB 319.  He gave a brief overview of HB  319.  He                 
  noted that HB 319 addresses the  Alaska's Small Loan Act and                 
  the Retail Installment  Sales Act.   He observed that  under                 
                                                                               
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  the Small Loan Act HB 319:                                                   
                                                                               
       *    Increases the application  fee from $400.0 hundred                 
            dollars to $1.0 thousand dollars:                                  
                                                                               
       *    Authorizes    multiple    office    licenses   and                 
            establishes 10 offices  as the  maximum number  of                 
            offices eligible under one license;                                
                                                                               
       *    Increases the annual license fee from $200 to $500                 
            hundred dollars in the case of a single office and                 
            allows a multiple office  license of $2.0 thousand                 
            dollars;                                                           
                                                                               
       *    Increases liquid asset  requirements from $20.0 to                 
            $25  thousand  dollars;  and   clarifies  that  an                 
            equivalent  amount  must  be  available  for  each                 
            office licensed under a multiple office license;                   
                                                                               
       *    Increases  the bond requirement from $5.0 to $20.0                 
            thousand dollars; and clarifies that only one bond                 
            is required for a multiple office license;                         
                                                                               
       *    Allows  licensees to  maintain  books and  records                 
            consistent with contemporary  data processing  and                 
            accounting methods (the licensee would not have to                 
            maintain separate books for associated business);                  
                                                                               
       *    Clarifies regulations regarding splitting of loans                 
            (husbands and  wives may receive  separate loans);                 
            and                                                                
                                                                               
       *    Broadens  the  scope  of  non-interest  fees  that                 
            lenders  may  charge borrowers  and  increases the                 
            amount of late  payment fees  that may be  charged                 
            from  10 percent or  $15 dollars to  10 percent or                 
            $25 dollars whichever is less.                                     
                                                                               
  Mr. Dosier explained that HB 319  would permit the charge of                 
  reasonable costs and fees for appraisals, surveys, and title                 
  insurance and  reports on loans of $10.0 thousand dollars or                 
  less where real property is taken as collateral.  This would                 
  also  apply  to loans  over $10.0  thousand dollars  even in                 
  cases where real  collateral is not taken for the  loan.  He                 
  added  that reasonable  attorney fees,  actual expenses  and                 
  costs would be allowed in connection  to the collection of a                 
  delinquent loan or foreclosure.                                              
                                                                               
  Mr.  Dosier  noted  the effects  of  HB  319  on the  Retail                 
  Installment Sales Act:                                                       
                                                                               
       *    Clarifies  and  broadens  the scope  of  fees  and                 
                                                                               
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            charges  that may  be imposed  in  connection with                 
            transactions,  including  late   fees,  collection                 
            charges and dishonored check charges which are not                 
            currently allowed; and                                             
                                                                               
       *    Amends current  law to  permit  lenders to  charge                 
            interest rates at whatever rate  the parties agree                 
            to charge.                                                         
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  referred  to   the  increased  bond                 
  requirement.    Mr.  Dosier  clarified  that  currently  all                 
  licensees pay a  $5.0 thousand dollar bond.   Representative                 
  Navarre noted that  a business  with five offices  currently                 
  maintains a $25.0 thousand dollar bond.  Under the bill they                 
  would still need a  $25.0 thousand dollar bond.   He pointed                 
  out that small operations would be  penalized.  He asked the                 
  justification for the change.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Brown noted that the legislation would remove                 
  limits on interest.   She  questioned if the  rate could  be                 
  changed without the agreement of  both parties.  Mr.  Dosier                 
  stated that notification  of term  changes would pertain  to                 
  future  use  of the  card.    The terms  are  established by                 
  agreement.                                                                   
                                                                               
  WILLIS   KIRKPATRICK,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   BANKING,                 
  SECURITIES  AND  CORPORATIONS,  DEPARTMENT OF  COMMERCE  AND                 
  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT stated that the Small Loan Act needs to                 
  be  addressed.     He  noted  that  the   legislation  is  a                 
  collaboration  between  the  Division  and  businesses.   He                 
  observed that the Act was enacted at statehood.  He observed                 
  that the  bond requirement was raised to reflect the maximum                 
  personal loan a small loan company can make.                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  pointed  out  that one  bond  could                 
  pertain to 10  separate offices.   Mr. Kirkpatrick  observed                 
  that  currently each office has  their own license and bond.                 
  He noted that there  has not been an  action against a  bond                 
  since  he  began   working  with   the  Division  in   1968.                 
  Representative Navarre reiterated  multiple licensees  would                 
  have an economic advantage.                                                  
  Representative  Brown  asked   Mr.  Kirkpatrick  to  discuss                 
  interest rates.  Mr. Kirkpatrick maintained that if one side                 
  of the balance sheet  is deregulated that the other  side of                 
  the  balance sheet  should be  deregulated.   He  noted that                 
  interest rates  are highly  competitive.   He observed  that                 
  interest  rates  are   imported  from  other  states.     He                 
  emphasized that the Division receives  a lot of applications                 
  from merchants that want to become small loan companies.  He                 
  maintained that Alaskan  businesses want  to compete in  the                 
  market  place  but cannot  compete  using the  Alaska Retail                 
  Installment  Sales  Act.    He  noted that  one  company  in                 
                                                                               
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  Anchorage    offers computers  at  no  money  down  with  an                 
  interest rate of  21 percent.  He  stressed that competition                 
  determines the interest rate.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative  Navarre  asked why  the  fiscal note  by the                 
  Department of Commerce and Economic Development is zero.  He                 
  asked if the Division has any concerns.                                      
                                                                               
  Mr. Kirkpatrick  told the  Committee that  he would  provide                 
  them with an  updated fiscal  note explaining why  it is  at                 
  zero.  He  observed that application fees  will be increased                 
  from $400.0 to $1.0 thousand dollars.   The legislation also                 
  allows the Department to charge actual expenses.  He  stated                 
  that he did not  foresee any substantial increase in  actual                 
  expenses.    He stated  that  any  expected impact  will  be                 
  positive.  He  could not estimate  the actual impact of  the                 
  legislation.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre  asked how many single  offices would                 
  have fees reduced  by going  to a multiple  license and  how                 
  many  offices would have  their fees raised  by 150 percent.                 
  Mr. Kirkpatrick noted that there are 18 licensees.   Norwest                 
  is the only licensee which has multiple offices.                             
                                                                               
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  Representative Navarre asked if the Division has suggestions                 
  for  improvement.    Mr.  Kirkpatrick   responded  that  the                 
  Department is in  total agreement with the  legislation.  He                 
  observed that some adjustments were  made through the debate                 
  process.  He noted that the Division met with members of the                 
  industry on several occasions.                                               
                                                                               
  JOHN HIGGINS, GENERAL MANAGER,  NORTHLAND CREDIT CORPORATION                 
  testified in support  of HB 319.   He noted that he  is also                 
  speaking on behalf of the Alaska Consumer Financial Services                 
  Association.   He explained  that the  difference between  a                 
  $5.0 and $25.0  thousand dollar bond is  only $100.0 hundred                 
  dollars a year in premiums.   He maintained that the license                 
  fee  cost is reasonable  and in line with  other states.  He                 
  reviewed highlights of HB 319.   He stressed that joint loan                 
  provisions are currently restrictive.   House Bill 319 would                 
  allow more than  one open account with  the same party  or a                 
  spouse.  He observed that currently only 30  day incremental                 
  payment cycles are  allowed between payments.   He suggested                 
  that this is restrictive to seasonal workers.  He noted that                 
  increased fees for insufficient fund checks will assure that                 
  costs are  passed on to non-payers.  He restated that HB 319                 
  will allow  a competitive  interest rate  structure to  meet                 
  competition with outside companies  that export their  rates                 
  into the state of  Alaska.  He requested that  the Committee                 
  add an immediate effective date.                                             
                                                                               
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  Mr. Higgins emphasized  that HB 319 would  create and retain                 
  jobs  in  Alaska's  financial   industry  and  provide  more                 
  financing  to local  communities.  He  stressed that  HB 319                 
  would provide credit to a broader base of Alaskan consumers.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  JOHN  SHIBE, EXECUTIVE  VICE  PRESIDENT,  NATIONAL  BANK  OF                 
  ALASKA, NORTHLAND CREDIT CORPORATION spoke  in support of HB
  319.  He noted that the material has been well represented.                  
                                                                               
  In response to a question  by Representative Therriault, Mr.                 
  Kirkpatrick  stated that  an immediate effective  date would                 
  have no impact on the agency.                                                
                                                                               
  Representative Brown asked how the legislation  would change                 
  the  late  fee  authorization.    Mr.  Higgins  stated  that                 
  currently it is  unclear if late  fees are authorized.   The                 
  industry  does  not charge  a  late fee  at  this time.   He                 
  observed that Section  13 clarifies  what can be  done.   He                 
  clarified that Section 13 applies  to the Retail Installment                 
  Sales Act.  Representative Brown  noted that the legislation                 
  allows for  a "reasonable" charge.   She questioned  what is                 
  reasonable.  Mr. Higgins stated that a dollar amount was not                 
  inserted because  of the  changing nature  of the  industry.                 
  Representative Brown suggested that the Department could use                 
  regulations   to   determine    what   is   "reasonable".                    
  Representative Brown asked  what recourse  a consumer  would                 
  have it  they felt  they were  charged an  unreasonable fee.                 
  Mr. Higgins stated that they could  contact the company.  He                 
  explained  that  it  would  not   be  under  the  Division's                 
  regulation.  He observed  that the consumer has the  ability                 
  to go to  the State  Attorney General or  other agencies  to                 
  voice their concerns.   Mr. Shibe added that late  fees have                 
  to be disclosed.                                                             
                                                                               
  SUSAN  BIZE,  GOVERNMENT  RELATIONS,  CREDIT DEPARTMENT,  JC                 
  PENNY INC. testified  via the  teleconference network.   She                 
  spoke in  support of HB 319.   She explained that  late fees                 
  are  agreed to once  the charge account has  been used.  She                 
  restated that  the purpose  of HB  319 is  to allow  Alaskan                 
  retailers to  effectively compete with  out-of-state vendors                 
  who are importing rates into the State.                                      
                                                                               
  Representative  Therriault  MOVED   to  adopt  an  immediate                 
  effective  date.   There  being  NO  OBJECTION,  it  was  so                 
  ordered.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault MOVED to report CSHB 319 (FIN) out                 
  of Committee  with individual  recommendations and with  the                 
  accompanying fiscal notes.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was                 
  so ordered.                                                                  
                                                                               
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  CSHB 319  (FIN) was  reported out  of Committee  with a  "do                 
  pass" recommendation  and  with a  zero fiscal  note by  the                 
  Department  of  Commerce  and  Economic  Development,  dated                 
  2/2/96.                                                                      

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